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Re: Je suis Ahmed, je suis Joav....but Charlie??

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:29 am
by Knacki
Cologne carnival cancelled a Charlie Hebdo carnival waggon.
Fear of attack.
Well that's the wrong sign!
Even though this is a crazy multi million alcoholic event, the motive was quite O.K.
And religous free!
http://www.dw.de/cologne-carnival-organizers-cancel-charlie-hebdo-float/a-18222673
Those who are not familiar with German carnival.
It's like modern Halloween but without fear just fun. Well fun for those who like.
And it's (a bit, beside alcohol) political and critical in a funny way.

A real sad thing.
Marine Le Pen is clearly before Hollande and Sarkozy in todays survey.

Re: Je suis Ahmed, je suis Joav....but Charlie??

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:02 pm
by GBoGBo
Knacki wrote: [...]
A real sad thing.
Marine Le Pen is clearly before Hollande and Sarkozy in todays survey.

Sad indeed but this is for the first round only, as already happened with her father.
On the second round I think that Manuel Valls will win in 2017, if he is the chosen candidate instead of Holland.
His father was a spanish painter, Xavier Valls, here is one of his portraits of young Manuel :
Image
http://www.artistsandart.org/2013/01/Xa ... inter.html

Re: Je suis Ahmed, je suis Joav....but Charlie??

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:24 am
by Zeropainter
A terrible act again in Paris :cry: ... hope all french verve users & readers are ok, it's so sad. And german/european Nazis - will profit too of the fear against muslims :PP

Re: Je suis Ahmed, je suis Joav....but Charlie??

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:29 am
by Taron
Yup, seems like the specifically poke the hornet's nest, attacking hooligans and such...and again I have to wonder, what's this really about. :shrug:

Re: Je suis Ahmed, je suis Joav....but Charlie??

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:22 pm
by GBoGBo
Terrible and very sad indeed... There is no much mystery about who did the attacks though, some witnesses have heard the attackers saying "it's the fault of [french president] Hollande, it's the fault of your president, he should not have intervened in Syria".

Re: Je suis Ahmed, je suis Joav....but Charlie??

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:43 pm
by Taron
Yes, sure...we won't know any different for possibly decades to come, who knows. The whole terrorist thing is just too crafted in my eyes. Something is brewing and we'll be there to see it boil, I'm afraid. Could it be that young fools are being manipulated to pull of such idiotic things, essentially supporting world wide hate against them, even among the party they belong to? Yes, sure. It's an incredibly evil game on top of a game we call society and we can't recognize either as such.
If my assumptions were true, it wouldn't change all that much until everybody were to catch on to that and no fool would be left to fall for the manipulations. Until then it remains just as dangerous and destructive. To the people who blew up or were gunned down, it makes no difference who killed them. AH well....

Re: Je suis Ahmed, je suis Joav....but Charlie??

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:44 pm
by Knacki
This time I would say:"Je suis Paris!" for sure.

I deeply feel sory for those been killed and their families.
And for those who have to live with what they have seen this night.
They'll never forget. I really do hope they are strong enough to live a normal life.
Let us send our strength to those fighting for their lifes in this moment.



What's going on earth?
Sure it makes a big difference who killed your daughter, friend, mother or neighbour.
Those who are dead have peace, I hope.
A big plant of hate was planted this night, I am seriously afraid of how big this will grow.

We have to be careful in what we'll believe next weeks.
First statement of IS has a strange mistake about an attack in 18 arrondisment.
Nothing happened there.
We have to be careful about what will be done in the name of the dead in next time.
Not a few will take them as an excuse to do something they always wanted to.

Re: Je suis Ahmed, je suis Joav....but Charlie??

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:52 pm
by Zeropainter
I did read that the former president Sarkozy want's now a TOTAL WAR :PP .. oh yes, fighting non-european-terrorism with more american-european-terrorism, how stupid is this? https://www.thespainreport.com/articles/473-151114142135-spain-maintains-terror-threat-level-at-four-out-of-five-after-paris-attacks

Nicolas Sarkozy said: "Nothing can be like it was before, it must be total war".


Yes, Nothing can be like it was before, but total war? I wish me total peace and freedom for everyone and a good life/prosperity without poverty for everyone too. Prosperity without wasting resources , so I mean a moderate prosperity.

Re: Je suis Ahmed, je suis Joav....but Charlie??

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:03 am
by Pilou
Sadness deepless! :( :( :(

Re: Je suis Ahmed, je suis Joav....but Charlie??

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:26 pm
by Lemivision
>>A big plant of hate was planted this night, I am seriously afraid of how big this will grow.

Unfortunately the plant of hate was planted many days before, but EU (including my country) didnĀ“t want to see it.. It is more than time to unite..