Suggestions

please please "TOP SECRET" code for verve

cel animation

A timeline, onion skin etc. and the possibility to distribute recorded stuff to timeline and export as image sequences.
Finally I really would say that verve is at a point where it could play a surprising role in avant-garde animation or traditional animation like this guy is doing:
https://pengbitao.deviantart.com/

Thank you Knacki for your support and Taron for your detailed answers.
Take your time. When you make all these things you have in mind, then Verve will be even more outstanding!

I know UI will be changed completely later, but for existing UI I have some questions - inspirations, experiences, comments.

1. crop/load/save -> this really needs the word on top of each button, like you have done for warp etc..

2.Even me, after working with verve for so many years, I often forget to look at this changing text field and search for load and save, as I am not using hotkeys for that funnily.
What ever you plan with new UI once - skip this text field and find another solution, or make it much, much more obvious and better connected.
For a beginner, I think it's super frustrating. For a "veteran" it still does not work like it should be. It's just a 50% hit at first glance.

3.If buttons have text on it, text is very shy -> almost unreadable until you hoover above. "Image Brush" word is an exception. Words are there to be read first, easy & quick. After, there is design. Specially on a tool like verve, imho.

4. Why is the brush image field that big? I mean the space above the buttons. You are saving so much space on the right, reducing everything to the very minimum. But there you are wasting space? Very taron unlikely.

5. As Tildee said, it would be lovely to have a reset function for tiny little knobs and a numerical input. CTRL+LMB click for reset, double click for numerical input?

6. Icons for paint, erase, smudge and average are not really working visually. They are super big but without real visual information. Common visual language icons could help for paint, erase & smudge at least and are realized in a much smaller way. Average?...hmmm.

7. The overall appearance of verves UI is not attractive & inviting, starting from old fashioned color choice to too much unexplained knobs.
I am a nerd, one who wants to find the easter egg. But verves UI, as it actually is, makes most things much more difficult to visually understand, than it is necessary.
And it is not sexy enough to forgive this weakness.

The main program I am working with is visually almost unchanged since 1990 and very DOS. I am really used to pain.
But in times of smartphone apps doing a pretty attractive UI design layout "in a few seconds", it can't harm to overthink it all very carefully, before doing a new design.

For inspiration:
I really like Infinite painter with it's light design, reduceable to the very minimum. The toolbar is customizable and gives you access to almost everything needed for 80% of your work. But if you go into deep there are very powerful tools to do almost anything.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... nter&hl=de
But it started quite unfocused and confusing
http://www.trustedreviews.com/guide/bes ... te-painter

Affinity photo is pretty as well.

Sure, it is often a matter of taste as I don't like bright UI's at all and I never will.
I am a vampire

Maybe, meanwhile,1&5 would be a lovely gift. Mostly 5

Hi Taron,

What a wonderful piece of software, congratulations. I wondered if you have plans of including a scripting ability in the future? I would love to be able to construct drawings with Verve Painter by writing some scripting code and then having Verve process it line by line...

For instance, something like the following would set the fluid value, set the brush size, color, and then draw a line from one corner to the other...

setFluid(.5)
setMaxSize(30)
setMinSize(20)
setColor(1,0,0,.5)
mouseLine(0,0,800,600)

Obviously, all these functions already exist, as they're interacted with through the gui-- and mouse movements. So I suppose my suggestion would be to open up the API to be accessed via a script processing feature, I suppose?

[Taron]

Hi Rudnik,
welcome to the forum, of course!
Yes, sure, this is absolutely possible and partially prepared already. Not long ago I made a recording/playback test that is in the current version. It shows exactly this ability, except that I haven't written an interpreter, yet, for text. There are many reasons for why I really love the idea, too. More exciting and adventurous it will become for me to properly execute math, too, because that really could lead to some fascinating explorations.

Great suggestion and right along the lines of where things are headed!

Rudnik,
welcome.
Until things are implemented you may wanna have a look at GboGbo's gallery. There you'll find some experiments he made with open processing and verve starting here:
viewtopic.php?p=11442#p11442

Thanks for the quick reply, Taron. That's very exciting to me that things are headed in this direction. It saves me the effort of writing a Java Robot simulator!

And thank you Knacki for that link-- it's very cool that I'm not the first thinking in these terms about the possibilities with Verve and math!

[Taron]

AH, pfff, yeah, not yet. This stuff is very tricky via BlitzMax. Maybe some day!

Hey dear taron, during my last painting - what about a key combination, what turns during the painting the choosed color into a pure value (white ... gray ... black) only? With Alt + Shift? e.g. ?