Vervette Fluid Sandbox...

Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:14 pm by Taron

Nice collection again and the deviant art page is great! :ob

I'm getting closer to the real version step by step. I've discovered a bunch of stupid things I had done in the sandbox and they'll be all neat in the full version. Right now I'm really reinventing everything, but it's really exciting, too. I can't wait to show it all. The GUI will be particularly interesting! I'm working out some really sweet things, having mobile in mind, but it benefits the entire work experience.

Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:29 pm by Taron

Here's a little teasing snapshot of what's to come...

Now this does not yet even have a fluid engine. It's one simple brush with simple color transfer and smear, almost old-school style. But I've worked out a new technique for the procedure, allowing for instant chroma preservation in blending and applying.
It's not yet all set and there's much left to figure out, but the whole thing will be a lot leaner, cleaner and not meaner. I love the level of control I am getting slowly but surely. :hyper:

Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:07 pm by Taron

I'm really, really carefully inching my way into the full version.
I've just added a canvas texture and basic layering structure. However, I still want to work more on my blending techniques, although they do work quite well into transparent areas already. Could be better still.
No doubt, it will have a fairly sophisticated non-fluid mode, hopefully rivaling all "common" painters. We shall see! 8-)

Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:27 am by Lemivision

I am very looking forward to try it. No doubt, you are on a good way to create one of the best painters in the world! Maybe the best?

Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:23 am by Pilou

A bicephalous prog! c:!

Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:08 am by Taron

Since it will have fluid dynamics, I'm just glad you did not call it hydrocephalous, hehehehe... :hihi:

THANK YOU, Lemi! :hug:

...working hard on it, that's for sure! I'm again looking at proper subtractive color mixing and this stuff is extraordinarily challenging, if you wanted to do it right and elegantly. The transformations are far from natural to the RGB system. While you can sort of "fake it" with the CMY as I have suggested already in the sandbox default color swatches and its ability to switch blend modes (multiply and even overlay), it still does not behave like "real" color pigments.
The trouble there is that those pigments color is based on their reflectance of wavelengths and how those overlap. That means, first you have to analyze (transform) the chosen color for their equivalent in pigment based colors. Then you have to determine their reflectance and then compute where they overlap and then reverse the result. But it's FAR worse than that! Because any mixed color won't have a direct pigment equivalent, if you think about it, so the moment you would continue to blend without knowing the original mixture, it likely can't stay "natural" in its behavior.
That means, I may have to figure out some sort of curious "fake" that may feel plausible when you work with it. Or maybe I just go "screw it" and simply try to make it run as fast as possible and leave the power of creativity to the artist to work out how to wield the computers power!

... but I'm like a dog with a bone, can't let it go and want to find some really fascinating solution. :tantrum:

Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:03 pm by Taron

Thank you, Pilou, but please, keep your wonderful power to boost my energy!

...do not post links to other apps here, please!
Ooohh, hahaha, I've downloaded the demo of Rebelle 4, actually, and I should leave the link after all, hehehehe! :hihi:

Besides the really wonderful color mixing behavior, which is very cool, it is very, very, very slow! :hyper: