So where is the source code?

If you're planning to release it as free software, then why didn't you do that already? I bet that a lot of people will submit pull requests... You know, it will be better for all of us, especially when we are talking about a software with such a great concept.

If you're not going to release the source code, then you probably want to start selling it. If not, then what are your intentions?

Just be a little bit clearer, please

I am not Taron but why don't you think that there is possible the third option: to release a free software and place the code in secret? Free software != open source software

I am not Taron but why don't you think that there is possible the third option: to release a free software and place the code in secret? Free software != open source software

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software

The rights to study and modify free software imply unfettered access to its source code.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

Thus, “free software” is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept, you should think of “free” as in “free speech,” not as in “free beer”.

* The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

But you're right when you say "Free software != open source software". Not every open source software is free software.

Also,

why don't you think that there is possible the third option: to release a software for free and place the code in secret?

There is no such option because it does not make any sense. If you want to share something cool with people then you just make it even cooler by releasing the source code. If you have some other, hidden intentions, then you just don't release the source code.

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Sysaxed>
Ok, freeware should be mentioned in place of the free software. You were right in this terminology.

But it is fully up to its creator how he/she provides the software and it is up to us to like it or not.. And I like Verve so much and I am a grateful user of it!

Sysaxed>
Ok, freeware should be mentioned in place of the free software. You were right in this terminology.

But it is fully up to its creator how he/she provides the software and it is up to us to like it or not.. And I like Verve so much and I am a grateful user of it!

Well, it is OK for us to like it today, but we should also be smart enough to understand what is going to happen in the long run.

[Taron]

...I'm really baffled sometimes by such attitudes. But thankfully there are enough wonderful human beings out there, who continue to make it a beautiful experience to share the fruit of my explorations with.
Here's why I don't make it open source:
1. Opportunists, who will try to make a commercial product out of it! Those might potentially have access to enough power and the drive to ruthlessly steal away access to such elemental tools for creative self expression and exploration from all those, who would otherwise not have the courage to even break into this field. Shot version: Really, really ugly people!

2. I am hoping to figure out some way for people to help me focus on creating and evolving future versions of Verve and possibly even more tools without extorting them to do so or depriving those, who either can't afford it or can't justify to experience their artistic powers by having to pay some fixed amount of money for it.

3. I may explore making some commercial mobile versions of it. I consider those gadgets as non-essential, a kind of luxury that is accustomed to paying small sums for apps and it would be a fair way for me to approach a business side whilst still holding true to my ideals (maintaining free desktop versions!)

And what on earth is it with bizarre labels? OPEN SOURCE = open source. FREE SOFTWARE = you don't have to pay to get the software. By precedence the word "free" is most often used for scams that provide "trial" versions and all that ugly deceit. In my case you actually get a software you can use and you don't have to pay for it.

Anyway, I'll have a look at what I wrote. It's good to know, if I can avoid having to face ungrateful behavior for no reason.

And what the hell do you care about what's going to happen "in the long run", honestly?! You can download it, use it and be happy now!
Be twice as happy, when a new version will come along. I won't ever come visit all of you at night and steal my software away from you?!?

[Taron]

Alright, so I looked around and I can't find where I was writing "Free Software"?! I'm sure I may have written that somewhere else, because my command of the English language suggests the use of the word "free" and the word "software" as appropriate for the case of Verve.
What I don't understand is the "planning to release" part, because it is already released as what it is and I am planning to continue to release new versions. So...I really don't know where you're coming from at all! My only explanation is that you would like to see the source code and believe that you'll get there by lecturing me in some form?!

I still hope you can enjoy painting with Verve. Next time you want to know something from me, please, consider just asking. And if you really want to be remembered as a friend, like literally everyone here on the forum is to me, you may even consider being a little bit polite about it!?

Hahaha,

reading your posts, Sysaxed, is irritating me a little bit.
It has the charm of a stranger entering my house saying:
"Well....where is the bedroom and where is your wife, you said it's free!!"

Sysaxed, you got all the rights you paid for, honey.

Be happy and make some lovely verve drawings.
Painting with verve is relaxing.
Looking forward to see your art.

Cheers.